Comments on: Palm Foleo will be a serious miss http://www.atmasphere.net/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss a multi-tasked stream of consciousness or perhaps just emails to myself Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:14:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jonathan Greene http://www.atmasphere.net/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss/comment-page-1#comment-271814 Jonathan Greene Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:32:42 +0000 http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss#comment-271814 I agree there's a market for this product - just not how Palm has it designed. I really like the idea of the UMPC - but don't want Windows. The Mobile Ubuntu and RedLinux teams have some interesting stuff happening and it should be interesting to see what the Intel MID devices will end up really being like... http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/04/16/intel-loves-maemo/ I agree there’s a market for this product – just not how Palm has it designed. I really like the idea of the UMPC – but don’t want Windows. The Mobile Ubuntu and RedLinux teams have some interesting stuff happening and it should be interesting to see what the Intel MID devices will end up really being like…

http://www.maemoapps.com/2007/04/16/intel-loves-maemo/

]]> By: James Cole http://www.atmasphere.net/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss/comment-page-1#comment-271813 James Cole Tue, 07 Aug 2007 15:28:56 +0000 http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss#comment-271813 To create and edit documents in earnest I need a keyboard I can touch type on and a screen big enough to view maybe 500 words at once. Treo, N800 and iPhone are not candidates and I want something more portable than my laptop. I think your key point, which I agree with, is that the form-factor, whilst smaller than an average laptop, is still awkward. With a decent keyboard and screen it always will be, but that is the price of having this functionality, functionality which I believe is a minimum for real mobile computing. I also believe there is a market for this sort of machine, as they will not cost as much as an ultra-portable laptop, which are just regular laptops miniaturised at enormous cost. I guess sales figures will decide this one way or another. To create and edit documents in earnest I need a keyboard I can touch type on and a screen big enough to view maybe 500 words at once. Treo, N800 and iPhone are not candidates and I want something more portable than my laptop.

I think your key point, which I agree with, is that the form-factor, whilst smaller than an average laptop, is still awkward. With a decent keyboard and screen it always will be, but that is the price of having this functionality, functionality which I believe is a minimum for real mobile computing. I also believe there is a market for this sort of machine, as they will not cost as much as an ultra-portable laptop, which are just regular laptops miniaturised at enormous cost. I guess sales figures will decide this one way or another.

]]> By: Jonathan Greene http://www.atmasphere.net/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss/comment-page-1#comment-271794 Jonathan Greene Tue, 07 Aug 2007 14:59:55 +0000 http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss#comment-271794 How is the Foleo better than a Nokia N800 or even the iPhone then? Both fit in my pocket, connect anywhere and are instantly on. If the Foleo was pocket size instead of something that makes me decide whether I want to lug it around, I might feel differently. How is the Foleo better than a Nokia N800 or even the iPhone then? Both fit in my pocket, connect anywhere and are instantly on.

If the Foleo was pocket size instead of something that makes me decide whether I want to lug it around, I might feel differently.

]]> By: James Cole http://www.atmasphere.net/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss/comment-page-1#comment-271552 James Cole Tue, 07 Aug 2007 07:42:38 +0000 http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss#comment-271552 Laptops have almost always been built to run heavy operating systems: Windows, OS X or regular desktop Linux. Both consume considerably, but I want to be able to whip out my portable device and start typing at full pace, which I cannot with a laptop and cannot with a Treo. Small, relatively inexpensive, light, instant on, better battery life, these are things I want, so a Treo is not enough and a laptop is too much. Perhaps the Foleo is specced and priced a bit too high, this is nevertheless the sort of device I have been wanting for many years. Other contenders are the VIA Nanobook and the ASUS Eee PC. I will be getting one and from forum reaction to these devices so will many others. Incidentally, phone syncing is not enough proclaim the Foleo is a new class of device. They are picking up where Psion left off and about time too. Laptops have almost always been built to run heavy operating systems: Windows, OS X or regular desktop Linux. Both consume considerably, but I want to be able to whip out my portable device and start typing at full pace, which I cannot with a laptop and cannot with a Treo. Small, relatively inexpensive, light, instant on, better battery life, these are things I want, so a Treo is not enough and a laptop is too much.

Perhaps the Foleo is specced and priced a bit too high, this is nevertheless the sort of device I have been wanting for many years. Other contenders are the VIA Nanobook and the ASUS Eee PC. I will be getting one and from forum reaction to these devices so will many others.

Incidentally, phone syncing is not enough proclaim the Foleo is a new class of device. They are picking up where Psion left off and about time too.

]]> By: atmaspheric | endeavors » Blog Archive » Remember when Palm was Cool? http://www.atmasphere.net/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss/comment-page-1#comment-270802 atmaspheric | endeavors » Blog Archive » Remember when Palm was Cool? Mon, 06 Aug 2007 13:47:29 +0000 http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss#comment-270802 [...] Palm and most of the units released following through the Treo 650. Between the revolutionary Foleo and this new Treo, I’m certainly glad my needs have [...] [...] Palm and most of the units released following through the Treo 650. Between the revolutionary Foleo and this new Treo, I’m certainly glad my needs have [...]

]]> By: NET9: Palm Foleo To Flop http://www.atmasphere.net/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss/comment-page-1#comment-204835 NET9: Palm Foleo To Flop Sat, 02 Jun 2007 20:35:16 +0000 http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss#comment-204835 <!--%kramer-ref-pre%-->[...] know that's a pretty harsh statement, but apparently I'm not the only one of this opinion. Jonathan Greene and Fabrizio Capobianco were pretty disappointed with the new mobile companion device, and it's [...]<!--%kramer-ref-post%--> Kramer auto Pingback[...] know that’s a pretty harsh statement, but apparently I’m not the only one of this opinion. Jonathan Greene and Fabrizio Capobianco were pretty disappointed with the new mobile companion device, and it’s [...]

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]]> By: ultramobilelife.com - UMPC Blog http://www.atmasphere.net/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss/comment-page-1#comment-202764 ultramobilelife.com - UMPC Blog Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss#comment-202764 <!--%kramer-pre%--> Palm introduces the Foleo Mobile Companion A new category of mobile device? Palm Foleo product pages now online! Palm Foleo will be a serious miss I'm aghast at Palm Palm Foleo: reminds me of Windows Smart Displays Live: All Things D Schedule for Today <!--%kramer-post%--> links from Technorati Palm introduces the Foleo Mobile Companion A new category of mobile device? Palm Foleo product pages now online! Palm Foleo will be a serious miss I’m aghast at Palm Palm Foleo: reminds me of Windows Smart Displays Live: All Things D Schedule for Today

]]> By: Dan Dickinson: The Primary Vivid Weblog http://www.atmasphere.net/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss/comment-page-1#comment-202763 Dan Dickinson: The Primary Vivid Weblog Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.atmasphere.net/wp/archives/2007/05/30/palm-foleo-will-be-a-serious-miss#comment-202763 <!--%kramer-pre%-->street for usability. If a company can't innovate within their own product line in over 6 years, I can't find any enthusiasm as they try and invent a new class of devices. If nothing else, Palm has made the iPhone look like a steal. Jonathan Greene has more on why this is a bad idea. UPDATE: NY1's Tech Beat piece this morning (Thursday) is on the Foleo; a reporter from CNET really nails it: “When you do a companion device you start to point out deficiencies in your current device and I think that's a problem for Palm,”<!--%kramer-post%--> links from Technoratistreet for usability. If a company can’t innovate within their own product line in over 6 years, I can’t find any enthusiasm as they try and invent a new class of devices. If nothing else, Palm has made the iPhone look like a steal. Jonathan Greene has more on why this is a bad idea. UPDATE: NY1’s Tech Beat piece this morning (Thursday) is on the Foleo; a reporter from CNET really nails it: “When you do a companion device you start to point out deficiencies in your current device and I think that’s a problem for Palm,”

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