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AJAX does not, an iPhone application make

June 12th, 2007 · 11 Comments · apple, gadgets and technology, marketing, software

get ready for iPhone

I like web apps as much as the next geek around here, but I find the decision (or lack therof) to make the iPhone DevKit the “Safari Engine.” Unless there’s some nifty way to make things work offline in cached mode, users are going to get frustrated quickly with the way things work. I know I’m saying all this before it’s even real, but in my experience with the various devices I’ve used (plenty… please feel free to search!) It’s much better not to have to rely on a net connection for getting things done.

Just think about the basic every day challenges of losing a connection in your browser while trying to do things like Gmail, RSS Reading, Calendaring any of the GTD web apps… and on and on. Dedicated apps can do far more often not just because they are not running in a browser (though that helps) but because the local filesystem can take full advantage of a device’s available resources. VOIP in-browser will be a no show though I’m sure that was part of the plan with ATT. No iChat for actual chat - so you are forced to use SMS. Google’s Gears which works on Webkit might make some of this better — but you need (currently) to remember to go offline first so that things sync. Otherwise, you’ll have nothing …

The latest bit is that there is limited to no flash support - perhaps the real reason behind the YouTube h.264 changes. I can’t see how running Safari in OSX will go on the majority of sites we all like to visit without Flash.

I find the iPhone very compelling, but I just keep bumping into rather annoying issues - No 3G, No iChat, only a 2MP camera, No MMS and now only web apps? $600 is a lot of cash for a device that you’ll be locked in on for 2 years when we will likely see a 2.0 release within 6 months. Apple stated they’d be looking to surprise and delight people … well there’s plenty of room for that.

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  • 1 Google Gears Blog - // Jun 12, 2007 at 10:39 am

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  • 2 Alexander Grundner // Jun 12, 2007 at 12:03 pm

    I completely agree. I read the announcement and I was like, what? I’m assuming Apple wants web developers to create custom pages/widgets for their iPhone readers on their websites similar to their designed-for-mobile web pages. Seems a bit silly, but I guess there’s possibilities there. Oh, and the lack of Flash support is a complete buzz killer. I don’t understand why it’s not supported, maybe they should of went with Opera. BTW, they offer something similar to what Apple is talking about in their “Opera Widgets” offering.

    http://www.opera.com/products/mobile/widgets/

  • 3 Alexander Grundner // Jun 12, 2007 at 12:08 pm

    Here’s CNET’s Crave take on the topic of iPhone Safari widgets:
    http://crave.cnet.com/8301-1_105-9728298-1.html?part=rss&tag=feed&subj=Crave

  • 4 eHomeUpgrade Forums - iPhone to Support Third-Party Web 2.0 Applications // Jun 12, 2007 at 1:04 pm

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  • 5 James // Jun 12, 2007 at 3:22 pm

    I think the Apps are going to be able to run whilst offline and will be right there in the home menu . . . that could make a big difference to how I feel about 3rd party apps on the iPhone - not that I’ll get to own one until November at the earliest!! Grrr!

  • 6 Jonathan Greene // Jun 12, 2007 at 7:26 pm

    I hope the apps run offline automagically or this is going to be a serious problem. I”m cool with Widgets as apps, but you can’t go the full distance like you can with a true application.

  • 7 Alexander Grundner // Jun 14, 2007 at 1:58 am

    Here’s a sample iPhone Digg Widget:
    http://davidcann.com/iphone/

    “Built with Yahoo! UI Library, PHP and the Digg API.”

  • 8 Jonathan Greene // Jun 14, 2007 at 8:13 am

    I tried that site on my N800 and it … sucks. Works OK on the desktop, but it’s brutal on the tablet - on home wifi. The N800 uses an Opera browser and is not running Safari with OSX so perhaps the iPhone will do a better job. You’ve got to hope apps get better than that though.

  • 9 Alexander Grundner // Jun 19, 2007 at 7:47 pm

    Here’s an iPhone app resource you might be interested in seeing - http://iphoneapplicationlist.com/

  • 10 Jonathan Greene // Jun 19, 2007 at 7:54 pm

    I’m having a hard time accepting those as applications… more like bookmarks to sites I might use on occasion. ;(

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